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## Minimum Window Sizes of Mac Apps

I use tiled window managers, and some layouts work better with smaller windows, but not all mac apps can do that so this is a collection of minimum window sizes of different apps to help me find which ones are better suited for my workflow.

I use the following thresholds:

* <= 250 = TINY
* > 250 and <= 400 = SMALL
* > 400 and <= 500 = MEDIUM
* > 500 <= 800 = LARGE
* > 800 = HUGE

### Browsers
* Arc: MEDIUM, 470px
* Firefox: MEDIUM, 450px
* Google Chrome: MEDIUM, 500px
* Lagrange: MEDIUM, 425px
* Qutebrowser: TINY, 128px
* Safari: LARGE, 575px

### Calendars and Contacts
* Calendar: LARGE, 639px
* Cardhop: SMALL, 350px
* Contacts: MEDIUM, 498px
* Fantastical: MEDIUM, 500px; Day view only, Week (510px), Month (516px), Quarter (524px), and Year (504px) are LARGE, though may vary by toolbar icons visible.

## II

### Developer Tools
* Console: LARGE, 600px
* Dash: LARGE, 800px
* Hex Fiend: TINY, 173px
* Script Debugger: MEDIUM, 500px
* RapidAPI: LARGE, 660px
* SQLPro Studio: LARGE, 600px
* SF Symbols: MEDIUM, 467px
* Sloth: HUGE, 853px
* Thony: TINY, 73px
* WorldWideWeb: MEDIUM, 480px

### Diagramming
* Map: TINY, 116px
* Monodraw: LARGE, 700px
* OmniGraffle: HUGE, 865px

### Document and Book Readers
* Adobe Digital Editions: LARGE, 700px
* Books: MEDIUM, 500px; Only when reading, the main window (1000px) is HUGE
* Calibre: TINY, 74px; Only when reading, the main window (570px) is LARGE
* Marked: SMALL, 400px
* Preview: LARGE, 708px

## III

### File Managers
* Finder: SMALL, 316px; Without sidebar, otherwise MEDIUM at 446px
* Transmission: SMALL, 350px
* Transmit: HUGE, 880px
* VeraCrypt: LARGE, 699px

### Home and Automation
* Automator: MEDIUM, 500px
* Home: LARGE, 515px
* Shortcuts: LARGE, 750px

### IDEs
* Android Studio: SMALL, 340px; Welcome window (800px) is LARGE
* Max 8: TINY, 118px
* Xcode: HUGE, 960px

## IV

### Image/3D/Publishing
* Acorn: LARGE, 800px
* Affinity Designer 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
* Affinity Photo 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
* Affinity Publisher 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
* Blender: SMALL, 320px
* Dark Room: HUGE, 900px
* Glyphs Mini: MEDIUM, 450px
* Paintbrush: TINY, 200px; Though it has floating windows
* Photomator: HUGE, 980px
* Photos: LARGE, 750px
* Pixelmator Pro: LARGE, 800px
* Sketch: LARGE, 800px

### Instant Messaging / Chat / Social Media
* Adium: TINY, 73px friend list, 200px chat; Some themes scroll at 200px
* Discord: HUGE, 940px
* Facetime: LARGE, 672px
* Ivory: SMALL, 378px
* Keybase: LARGE, 740px
* Last.fm Scrobbler: LARGE, 540px
* Messages: MEDIUM, 434px
* Signal: LARGE, 680px
* Slack: LARGE, 668px
* Telegram: MEDIUM, 380px
* Textual: MEDIUM, 342px
* We: TINY, 74px

## V

### Marketplaces
* App Store: HUGE, 1000px
* Setapp: HUGE, 1100px
* Steam: HUGE, 1008px

### Math
* Calculator: TINY, 232px; Programmer (398px) is SMALL, Scientific (574px) is LARGE
* PCalc: SMALL, 380px
* Numi: SMALL, 310px
* Soulver: LARGE, 730px

### Note-taking
* Bear: SMALL, 300px; With Notes (570px) and Tags (752px) it's LARGE
* Notes: MEDIUM, 500px
* Obsidian: TINY, 200px
* Stickies: TINY, 54px

### Office Software
* iAPresenter: LARGE, 700px
* Keynote: LARGE, 540px
* Numbers: LARGE, 540px; The new window (760px) is also LARGE
* OmniPlan: LARGE, 740px
* Pages: LARGE, 640px

## VI

### Media Players
* IINA: SMALL, 286px
* Music: HUGE, 980px
* Odio: HUGE, 1000px
* Play: HUGE, 870px
* Podcasts: HUGE, 1000px
* QuickTime Player: SMALL, 326px
* Swinsian: HUGE, 870px

### Mail
* Mail: LARGE, 550px; Only in column layout, otherwise 610px

### Music Making
* Ableton Live: LARGE, 800px
* Capo: LARGE, 777px
* GarageBand: SMALL, 400px
* Logic Pro: SMALL, 400px
* MuseScore: HUGE, 1050px
* Reason: HUGE, 972px; The Reason companion is 1200px

### News Readers / Bookmarks
* NetNewsWire: LARGE, 585px
* News: HUGE, 860px
* Pins: LARGE, 515px
* Reeder: SMALL, 320px
* Unison: LARGE, 800px

## VII

### Password Managers
* 1password: LARGE, 784px
* Bitwarden: LARGE, 680px
* KeePassX: LARGE, 558px
* Secrets: LARGE, 603px

### Task Managers
* Do: TINY, 180px
* Reminders: SMALL, 350px
* Ritmo: TINY, 85px
* Things: SMALL, 400px

### Terminal Emulators
* iTerm 2: TINY, 70px; Size depends on font, I got down to 7 columns
* Kitty: TINY, 22px; Size depends on font, I got down to 2 columns
* Terminal: TINY, 190px; Size depends on font, I got down to 20 columns

### Text Editors
* Atom: TINY, 73px
* BBEdit: SMALL, 311px
* Byword: SMALL, 350px
* Inky: SMALL, 350px
* Nova: MEDIUM, 480px
* Scrivener: SMALL, 316px
* Sublime Text: TINY, 91px
* TextEdit: TINY, 159px; Can go smaller, but not for very long.
* Ulysses: LARGE, 555px
* Visual Studio Code: SMALL, 400px

## VIII

### Utilities
* Activity Monitor: LARGE, 740px
* Clock: LARGE, 600px
* CrystalFetch: LARGE, 800px
* DaisyDisk: LARGE, 800px
* Dictionary: SMALL, 400px
* Find My: HUGE, 980px
* Flighty: LARGE, 515px
* Font Book: SMALL, 350px
* Freeform: LARGE, 600px
* GPG Keychain: MEDIUM, 470px
* HP Smart: HUGE, 1024px
* Logitech G Hub: HUGE, 1024px
* Malwarebytes: HUGE, 888px
* Maps: LARGE, 660px
* ObinsKit: HUGE, 1200px
* Parcel: LARGE, 722px
* Photo Booth: LARGE, 600px
* CleanMyMacX: HUGE, 1120px
* Gemini: HUGE, 1152px
* Typeface: MEDIUM, 440px
* Stocks: HUGE, 860px
* Voice Memos: LARGE, 752px
* Weather: HUGE 985px

### Video Editing / Streaming
* DaVinci Resolve: HUGE, 1445px
* iMovie: HUGE, 1280px
* OBS: HUGE, 867px

### VPN
* NordVPN: HUGE, 902px
Commit	Line	Data
f752d89a	1	## Minimum Window Sizes of Mac Apps
3c6823f7 RBR	2
	3	I use tiled window managers, and some layouts work better with smaller windows, but not all mac apps can do that so this is a collection of minimum window sizes of different apps to help me find which ones are better suited for my workflow.
	4
	5	I use the following thresholds:
	6
	7	* <= 250 = TINY
	8	* > 250 and <= 400 = SMALL
	9	* > 400 and <= 500 = MEDIUM
	10	* > 500 <= 800 = LARGE
	11	* > 800 = HUGE
	12
f752d89a	13	### Browsers
3c6823f7 RBR	14	* Arc: MEDIUM, 470px
	15	* Firefox: MEDIUM, 450px
	16	* Google Chrome: MEDIUM, 500px
	17	* Lagrange: MEDIUM, 425px
	18	* Qutebrowser: TINY, 128px
	19	* Safari: LARGE, 575px
	20
f752d89a	21	### Calendars and Contacts
3c6823f7 RBR	22	* Calendar: LARGE, 639px
	23	* Cardhop: SMALL, 350px
	24	* Contacts: MEDIUM, 498px
	25	* Fantastical: MEDIUM, 500px; Day view only, Week (510px), Month (516px), Quarter (524px), and Year (504px) are LARGE, though may vary by toolbar icons visible.
	26
f752d89a RBR	27	## II
	28
	29	### Developer Tools
3c6823f7 RBR	30	* Console: LARGE, 600px
	31	* Dash: LARGE, 800px
	32	* Hex Fiend: TINY, 173px
	33	* Script Debugger: MEDIUM, 500px
	34	* RapidAPI: LARGE, 660px
	35	* SQLPro Studio: LARGE, 600px
	36	* SF Symbols: MEDIUM, 467px
	37	* Sloth: HUGE, 853px
	38	* Thony: TINY, 73px
	39	* WorldWideWeb: MEDIUM, 480px
	40
f752d89a	41	### Diagramming
3c6823f7 RBR	42	* Map: TINY, 116px
	43	* Monodraw: LARGE, 700px
	44	* OmniGraffle: HUGE, 865px
	45
f752d89a	46	### Document and Book Readers
3c6823f7 RBR	47	* Adobe Digital Editions: LARGE, 700px
	48	* Books: MEDIUM, 500px; Only when reading, the main window (1000px) is HUGE
	49	* Calibre: TINY, 74px; Only when reading, the main window (570px) is LARGE
	50	* Marked: SMALL, 400px
	51	* Preview: LARGE, 708px
	52
f752d89a RBR	53	## III
	54
	55	### File Managers
3c6823f7 RBR	56	* Finder: SMALL, 316px; Without sidebar, otherwise MEDIUM at 446px
	57	* Transmission: SMALL, 350px
	58	* Transmit: HUGE, 880px
	59	* VeraCrypt: LARGE, 699px
	60
f752d89a	61	### Home and Automation
3c6823f7 RBR	62	* Automator: MEDIUM, 500px
	63	* Home: LARGE, 515px
	64	* Shortcuts: LARGE, 750px
	65
f752d89a	66	### IDEs
3c6823f7 RBR	67	* Android Studio: SMALL, 340px; Welcome window (800px) is LARGE
	68	* Max 8: TINY, 118px
	69	* Xcode: HUGE, 960px
	70
f752d89a RBR	71	## IV
	72
	73	### Image/3D/Publishing
3c6823f7 RBR	74	* Acorn: LARGE, 800px
	75	* Affinity Designer 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
	76	* Affinity Photo 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
	77	* Affinity Publisher 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
	78	* Blender: SMALL, 320px
	79	* Dark Room: HUGE, 900px
	80	* Glyphs Mini: MEDIUM, 450px
	81	* Paintbrush: TINY, 200px; Though it has floating windows
	82	* Photomator: HUGE, 980px
	83	* Photos: LARGE, 750px
	84	* Pixelmator Pro: LARGE, 800px
	85	* Sketch: LARGE, 800px
	86
f752d89a	87	### Instant Messaging / Chat / Social Media
3c6823f7 RBR	88	* Adium: TINY, 73px friend list, 200px chat; Some themes scroll at 200px
	89	* Discord: HUGE, 940px
	90	* Facetime: LARGE, 672px
	91	* Ivory: SMALL, 378px
	92	* Keybase: LARGE, 740px
	93	* Last.fm Scrobbler: LARGE, 540px
	94	* Messages: MEDIUM, 434px
	95	* Signal: LARGE, 680px
	96	* Slack: LARGE, 668px
	97	* Telegram: MEDIUM, 380px
	98	* Textual: MEDIUM, 342px
	99	* We: TINY, 74px
	100
f752d89a RBR	101	## V
	102
	103	### Marketplaces
3c6823f7 RBR	104	* App Store: HUGE, 1000px
	105	* Setapp: HUGE, 1100px
	106	* Steam: HUGE, 1008px
	107
f752d89a	108	### Math
3c6823f7 RBR	109	* Calculator: TINY, 232px; Programmer (398px) is SMALL, Scientific (574px) is LARGE
	110	* PCalc: SMALL, 380px
	111	* Numi: SMALL, 310px
	112	* Soulver: LARGE, 730px
	113
f752d89a	114	### Note-taking
3c6823f7 RBR	115	* Bear: SMALL, 300px; With Notes (570px) and Tags (752px) it's LARGE
	116	* Notes: MEDIUM, 500px
	117	* Obsidian: TINY, 200px
	118	* Stickies: TINY, 54px
	119
f752d89a	120	### Office Software
3c6823f7 RBR	121	* iAPresenter: LARGE, 700px
	122	* Keynote: LARGE, 540px
	123	* Numbers: LARGE, 540px; The new window (760px) is also LARGE
	124	* OmniPlan: LARGE, 740px
	125	* Pages: LARGE, 640px
	126
f752d89a RBR	127	## VI
	128
	129	### Media Players
3c6823f7 RBR	130	* IINA: SMALL, 286px
	131	* Music: HUGE, 980px
	132	* Odio: HUGE, 1000px
	133	* Play: HUGE, 870px
	134	* Podcasts: HUGE, 1000px
	135	* QuickTime Player: SMALL, 326px
	136	* Swinsian: HUGE, 870px
	137
f752d89a	138	### Mail
3c6823f7 RBR	139	* Mail: LARGE, 550px; Only in column layout, otherwise 610px
3c6823f7 RBR	140
f752d89a	141	### Music Making
3c6823f7 RBR	142	* Ableton Live: LARGE, 800px
	143	* Capo: LARGE, 777px
	144	* GarageBand: SMALL, 400px
	145	* Logic Pro: SMALL, 400px
	146	* MuseScore: HUGE, 1050px
	147	* Reason: HUGE, 972px; The Reason companion is 1200px
	148
f752d89a	149	### News Readers / Bookmarks
3c6823f7 RBR	150	* NetNewsWire: LARGE, 585px
	151	* News: HUGE, 860px
	152	* Pins: LARGE, 515px
	153	* Reeder: SMALL, 320px
	154	* Unison: LARGE, 800px
	155
f752d89a RBR	156	## VII
	157
	158	### Password Managers
3c6823f7 RBR	159	* 1password: LARGE, 784px
	160	* Bitwarden: LARGE, 680px
	161	* KeePassX: LARGE, 558px
	162	* Secrets: LARGE, 603px
	163
f752d89a	164	### Task Managers
3c6823f7 RBR	165	* Do: TINY, 180px
	166	* Reminders: SMALL, 350px
	167	* Ritmo: TINY, 85px
	168	* Things: SMALL, 400px
	169
f752d89a	170	### Terminal Emulators
3c6823f7 RBR	171	* iTerm 2: TINY, 70px; Size depends on font, I got down to 7 columns
	172	* Kitty: TINY, 22px; Size depends on font, I got down to 2 columns
	173	* Terminal: TINY, 190px; Size depends on font, I got down to 20 columns
	174
f752d89a	175	### Text Editors
3c6823f7 RBR	176	* Atom: TINY, 73px
	177	* BBEdit: SMALL, 311px
	178	* Byword: SMALL, 350px
	179	* Inky: SMALL, 350px
	180	* Nova: MEDIUM, 480px
	181	* Scrivener: SMALL, 316px
	182	* Sublime Text: TINY, 91px
	183	* TextEdit: TINY, 159px; Can go smaller, but not for very long.
	184	* Ulysses: LARGE, 555px
	185	* Visual Studio Code: SMALL, 400px
	186
f752d89a RBR	187	## VIII
	188
	189	### Utilities
3c6823f7 RBR	190	* Activity Monitor: LARGE, 740px
	191	* Clock: LARGE, 600px
	192	* CrystalFetch: LARGE, 800px
	193	* DaisyDisk: LARGE, 800px
	194	* Dictionary: SMALL, 400px
	195	* Find My: HUGE, 980px
	196	* Flighty: LARGE, 515px
	197	* Font Book: SMALL, 350px
	198	* Freeform: LARGE, 600px
	199	* GPG Keychain: MEDIUM, 470px
	200	* HP Smart: HUGE, 1024px
	201	* Logitech G Hub: HUGE, 1024px
	202	* Malwarebytes: HUGE, 888px
	203	* Maps: LARGE, 660px
	204	* ObinsKit: HUGE, 1200px
	205	* Parcel: LARGE, 722px
	206	* Photo Booth: LARGE, 600px
	207	* CleanMyMacX: HUGE, 1120px
	208	* Gemini: HUGE, 1152px
	209	* Typeface: MEDIUM, 440px
	210	* Stocks: HUGE, 860px
	211	* Voice Memos: LARGE, 752px
	212	* Weather: HUGE 985px
	213
f752d89a	214	### Video Editing / Streaming
3c6823f7 RBR	215	* DaVinci Resolve: HUGE, 1445px
	216	* iMovie: HUGE, 1280px
	217	* OBS: HUGE, 867px
	218
f752d89a	219	### VPN
3c6823f7	220	* NordVPN: HUGE, 902px