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# Minimum Window Sizes of Mac Apps

I use tiled window managers, and some layouts work better with smaller windows, but not all mac apps can do that so this is a collection of minimum window sizes of different apps to help me find which ones are better suited for my workflow.

I use the following thresholds:

* <= 250 = TINY
* > 250 and <= 400 = SMALL
* > 400 and <= 500 = MEDIUM
* > 500 <= 800 = LARGE
* > 800 = HUGE

## Browsers
* Arc: MEDIUM, 470px
* Firefox: MEDIUM, 450px
* Google Chrome: MEDIUM, 500px
* Lagrange: MEDIUM, 425px
* Qutebrowser: TINY, 128px
* Safari: LARGE, 575px

## Calendars and Contacts
* Calendar: LARGE, 639px
* Cardhop: SMALL, 350px
* Contacts: MEDIUM, 498px
* Fantastical: MEDIUM, 500px; Day view only, Week (510px), Month (516px), Quarter (524px), and Year (504px) are LARGE, though may vary by toolbar icons visible.

## Developer Tools
* Console: LARGE, 600px
* Dash: LARGE, 800px
* Hex Fiend: TINY, 173px
* Script Debugger: MEDIUM, 500px
* RapidAPI: LARGE, 660px
* SQLPro Studio: LARGE, 600px
* SF Symbols: MEDIUM, 467px
* Sloth: HUGE, 853px
* Thony: TINY, 73px
* WorldWideWeb: MEDIUM, 480px

## Diagramming
* Map: TINY, 116px
* Monodraw: LARGE, 700px
* OmniGraffle: HUGE, 865px

## Document and Book Readers
* Adobe Digital Editions: LARGE, 700px
* Books: MEDIUM, 500px; Only when reading, the main window (1000px) is HUGE
* Calibre: TINY, 74px; Only when reading, the main window (570px) is LARGE
* Marked: SMALL, 400px
* Preview: LARGE, 708px

## File Managers
* Finder: SMALL, 316px; Without sidebar, otherwise MEDIUM at 446px
* Transmission: SMALL, 350px
* Transmit: HUGE, 880px
* VeraCrypt: LARGE, 699px

## Home and Automation
* Automator: MEDIUM, 500px
* Home: LARGE, 515px
* Shortcuts: LARGE, 750px

## IDEs
* Android Studio: SMALL, 340px; Welcome window (800px) is LARGE
* Max 8: TINY, 118px
* Xcode: HUGE, 960px

## Image/3D/Publishing
* Acorn: LARGE, 800px
* Affinity Designer 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
* Affinity Photo 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
* Affinity Publisher 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
* Blender: SMALL, 320px
* Dark Room: HUGE, 900px
* Glyphs Mini: MEDIUM, 450px
* Paintbrush: TINY, 200px; Though it has floating windows
* Photomator: HUGE, 980px
* Photos: LARGE, 750px
* Pixelmator Pro: LARGE, 800px
* Sketch: LARGE, 800px

## Instant Messaging / Chat / Social Media
* Adium: TINY, 73px friend list, 200px chat; Some themes scroll at 200px
* Discord: HUGE, 940px
* Facetime: LARGE, 672px
* Ivory: SMALL, 378px
* Keybase: LARGE, 740px
* Last.fm Scrobbler: LARGE, 540px
* Messages: MEDIUM, 434px
* Signal: LARGE, 680px
* Slack: LARGE, 668px
* Telegram: MEDIUM, 380px
* Textual: MEDIUM, 342px
* We: TINY, 74px

## Marketplaces
* App Store: HUGE, 1000px
* Setapp: HUGE, 1100px
* Steam: HUGE, 1008px

## Math
* Calculator: TINY, 232px; Programmer (398px) is SMALL, Scientific (574px) is LARGE
* PCalc: SMALL, 380px
* Numi: SMALL, 310px
* Soulver: LARGE, 730px

## Note-taking
* Bear: SMALL, 300px; With Notes (570px) and Tags (752px) it's LARGE
* Notes: MEDIUM, 500px
* Obsidian: TINY, 200px
* Stickies: TINY, 54px

## Office Software
* iAPresenter: LARGE, 700px
* Keynote: LARGE, 540px
* Numbers: LARGE, 540px; The new window (760px) is also LARGE
* OmniPlan: LARGE, 740px
* Pages: LARGE, 640px

## Media Players
* IINA: SMALL, 286px
* Music: HUGE, 980px
* Odio: HUGE, 1000px
* Play: HUGE, 870px
* Podcasts: HUGE, 1000px
* QuickTime Player: SMALL, 326px
* Swinsian: HUGE, 870px

## Mail
* Mail: LARGE, 550px; Only in column layout, otherwise 610px

## Music Making
* Ableton Live: LARGE, 800px
* Capo: LARGE, 777px
* GarageBand: SMALL, 400px
* Logic Pro: SMALL, 400px
* MuseScore: HUGE, 1050px
* Reason: HUGE, 972px; The Reason companion is 1200px

## News Readers / Bookmarks
* NetNewsWire: LARGE, 585px
* News: HUGE, 860px
* Pins: LARGE, 515px
* Reeder: SMALL, 320px
* Unison: LARGE, 800px

## Password Managers
* 1password: LARGE, 784px
* Bitwarden: LARGE, 680px
* KeePassX: LARGE, 558px
* Secrets: LARGE, 603px

## Task Managers
* Do: TINY, 180px
* Reminders: SMALL, 350px
* Ritmo: TINY, 85px
* Things: SMALL, 400px

## Terminal Emulators
* iTerm 2: TINY, 70px; Size depends on font, I got down to 7 columns
* Kitty: TINY, 22px; Size depends on font, I got down to 2 columns
* Terminal: TINY, 190px; Size depends on font, I got down to 20 columns

## Text Editors
* Atom: TINY, 73px
* BBEdit: SMALL, 311px
* Byword: SMALL, 350px
* Inky: SMALL, 350px
* Nova: MEDIUM, 480px
* Scrivener: SMALL, 316px
* Sublime Text: TINY, 91px
* TextEdit: TINY, 159px; Can go smaller, but not for very long.
* Ulysses: LARGE, 555px
* Visual Studio Code: SMALL, 400px

## Utilities
* Activity Monitor: LARGE, 740px
* Clock: LARGE, 600px
* CrystalFetch: LARGE, 800px
* DaisyDisk: LARGE, 800px
* Dictionary: SMALL, 400px
* Find My: HUGE, 980px
* Flighty: LARGE, 515px
* Font Book: SMALL, 350px
* Freeform: LARGE, 600px
* GPG Keychain: MEDIUM, 470px
* HP Smart: HUGE, 1024px
* Logitech G Hub: HUGE, 1024px
* Malwarebytes: HUGE, 888px
* Maps: LARGE, 660px
* ObinsKit: HUGE, 1200px
* Parcel: LARGE, 722px
* Photo Booth: LARGE, 600px
* CleanMyMacX: HUGE, 1120px
* Gemini: HUGE, 1152px
* Typeface: MEDIUM, 440px
* Stocks: HUGE, 860px
* Voice Memos: LARGE, 752px
* Weather: HUGE 985px

## Video Editing / Streaming
* DaVinci Resolve: HUGE, 1445px
* iMovie: HUGE, 1280px
* OBS: HUGE, 867px

## VPN
* NordVPN: HUGE, 902px
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3c6823f7 RBR	1	# Minimum Window Sizes of Mac Apps
	2
	3	I use tiled window managers, and some layouts work better with smaller windows, but not all mac apps can do that so this is a collection of minimum window sizes of different apps to help me find which ones are better suited for my workflow.
	4
	5	I use the following thresholds:
	6
	7	* <= 250 = TINY
	8	* > 250 and <= 400 = SMALL
	9	* > 400 and <= 500 = MEDIUM
	10	* > 500 <= 800 = LARGE
	11	* > 800 = HUGE
	12
	13	## Browsers
	14	* Arc: MEDIUM, 470px
	15	* Firefox: MEDIUM, 450px
	16	* Google Chrome: MEDIUM, 500px
	17	* Lagrange: MEDIUM, 425px
	18	* Qutebrowser: TINY, 128px
	19	* Safari: LARGE, 575px
	20
	21	## Calendars and Contacts
	22	* Calendar: LARGE, 639px
	23	* Cardhop: SMALL, 350px
	24	* Contacts: MEDIUM, 498px
	25	* Fantastical: MEDIUM, 500px; Day view only, Week (510px), Month (516px), Quarter (524px), and Year (504px) are LARGE, though may vary by toolbar icons visible.
	26
	27	## Developer Tools
	28	* Console: LARGE, 600px
	29	* Dash: LARGE, 800px
	30	* Hex Fiend: TINY, 173px
	31	* Script Debugger: MEDIUM, 500px
	32	* RapidAPI: LARGE, 660px
	33	* SQLPro Studio: LARGE, 600px
	34	* SF Symbols: MEDIUM, 467px
	35	* Sloth: HUGE, 853px
	36	* Thony: TINY, 73px
	37	* WorldWideWeb: MEDIUM, 480px
	38
	39	## Diagramming
	40	* Map: TINY, 116px
	41	* Monodraw: LARGE, 700px
	42	* OmniGraffle: HUGE, 865px
	43
	44	## Document and Book Readers
	45	* Adobe Digital Editions: LARGE, 700px
	46	* Books: MEDIUM, 500px; Only when reading, the main window (1000px) is HUGE
	47	* Calibre: TINY, 74px; Only when reading, the main window (570px) is LARGE
	48	* Marked: SMALL, 400px
	49	* Preview: LARGE, 708px
	50
	51	## File Managers
	52	* Finder: SMALL, 316px; Without sidebar, otherwise MEDIUM at 446px
	53	* Transmission: SMALL, 350px
	54	* Transmit: HUGE, 880px
	55	* VeraCrypt: LARGE, 699px
	56
	57	## Home and Automation
	58	* Automator: MEDIUM, 500px
	59	* Home: LARGE, 515px
	60	* Shortcuts: LARGE, 750px
	61
	62	## IDEs
	63	* Android Studio: SMALL, 340px; Welcome window (800px) is LARGE
	64	* Max 8: TINY, 118px
65	* Xcode: HUGE, 960px
66
67	## Image/3D/Publishing
68	* Acorn: LARGE, 800px
69	* Affinity Designer 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
70	* Affinity Photo 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
71	* Affinity Publisher 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
72	* Blender: SMALL, 320px
73	* Dark Room: HUGE, 900px
74	* Glyphs Mini: MEDIUM, 450px
75	* Paintbrush: TINY, 200px; Though it has floating windows
76	* Photomator: HUGE, 980px
77	* Photos: LARGE, 750px
78	* Pixelmator Pro: LARGE, 800px
79	* Sketch: LARGE, 800px
80
81	## Instant Messaging / Chat / Social Media
82	* Adium: TINY, 73px friend list, 200px chat; Some themes scroll at 200px
83	* Discord: HUGE, 940px
84	* Facetime: LARGE, 672px
85	* Ivory: SMALL, 378px
86	* Keybase: LARGE, 740px
87	* Last.fm Scrobbler: LARGE, 540px
88	* Messages: MEDIUM, 434px
89	* Signal: LARGE, 680px
90	* Slack: LARGE, 668px
91	* Telegram: MEDIUM, 380px
92	* Textual: MEDIUM, 342px
93	* We: TINY, 74px
94
95	## Marketplaces
96	* App Store: HUGE, 1000px
97	* Setapp: HUGE, 1100px
98	* Steam: HUGE, 1008px
99
100	## Math
101	* Calculator: TINY, 232px; Programmer (398px) is SMALL, Scientific (574px) is LARGE
102	* PCalc: SMALL, 380px
103	* Numi: SMALL, 310px
104	* Soulver: LARGE, 730px
105
106	## Note-taking
107	* Bear: SMALL, 300px; With Notes (570px) and Tags (752px) it's LARGE
108	* Notes: MEDIUM, 500px
109	* Obsidian: TINY, 200px
110	* Stickies: TINY, 54px
111
112	## Office Software
113	* iAPresenter: LARGE, 700px
114	* Keynote: LARGE, 540px
115	* Numbers: LARGE, 540px; The new window (760px) is also LARGE
116	* OmniPlan: LARGE, 740px
117	* Pages: LARGE, 640px
118
119	## Media Players
120	* IINA: SMALL, 286px
121	* Music: HUGE, 980px
122	* Odio: HUGE, 1000px
123	* Play: HUGE, 870px
124	* Podcasts: HUGE, 1000px
125	* QuickTime Player: SMALL, 326px
126	* Swinsian: HUGE, 870px
127
128	## Mail
129	* Mail: LARGE, 550px; Only in column layout, otherwise 610px
130
131	## Music Making
132	* Ableton Live: LARGE, 800px
133	* Capo: LARGE, 777px
134	* GarageBand: SMALL, 400px
135	* Logic Pro: SMALL, 400px
136	* MuseScore: HUGE, 1050px
137	* Reason: HUGE, 972px; The Reason companion is 1200px
138
139	## News Readers / Bookmarks
140	* NetNewsWire: LARGE, 585px
141	* News: HUGE, 860px
142	* Pins: LARGE, 515px
143	* Reeder: SMALL, 320px
144	* Unison: LARGE, 800px
145
146	## Password Managers
147	* 1password: LARGE, 784px
148	* Bitwarden: LARGE, 680px
149	* KeePassX: LARGE, 558px
150	* Secrets: LARGE, 603px
151
152	## Task Managers
153	* Do: TINY, 180px
154	* Reminders: SMALL, 350px
155	* Ritmo: TINY, 85px
156	* Things: SMALL, 400px
157
158	## Terminal Emulators
159	* iTerm 2: TINY, 70px; Size depends on font, I got down to 7 columns
160	* Kitty: TINY, 22px; Size depends on font, I got down to 2 columns
161	* Terminal: TINY, 190px; Size depends on font, I got down to 20 columns
162
163	## Text Editors
164	* Atom: TINY, 73px
165	* BBEdit: SMALL, 311px
166	* Byword: SMALL, 350px
167	* Inky: SMALL, 350px
168	* Nova: MEDIUM, 480px
169	* Scrivener: SMALL, 316px
170	* Sublime Text: TINY, 91px
171	* TextEdit: TINY, 159px; Can go smaller, but not for very long.
172	* Ulysses: LARGE, 555px
173	* Visual Studio Code: SMALL, 400px
174
175	## Utilities
176	* Activity Monitor: LARGE, 740px
177	* Clock: LARGE, 600px
178	* CrystalFetch: LARGE, 800px
179	* DaisyDisk: LARGE, 800px
180	* Dictionary: SMALL, 400px
181	* Find My: HUGE, 980px
182	* Flighty: LARGE, 515px
183	* Font Book: SMALL, 350px
184	* Freeform: LARGE, 600px
185	* GPG Keychain: MEDIUM, 470px
186	* HP Smart: HUGE, 1024px
187	* Logitech G Hub: HUGE, 1024px
188	* Malwarebytes: HUGE, 888px
189	* Maps: LARGE, 660px
190	* ObinsKit: HUGE, 1200px
191	* Parcel: LARGE, 722px
192	* Photo Booth: LARGE, 600px
193	* CleanMyMacX: HUGE, 1120px
194	* Gemini: HUGE, 1152px
195	* Typeface: MEDIUM, 440px
196	* Stocks: HUGE, 860px
197	* Voice Memos: LARGE, 752px
198	* Weather: HUGE 985px
199
200	## Video Editing / Streaming
201	* DaVinci Resolve: HUGE, 1445px
202	* iMovie: HUGE, 1280px
203	* OBS: HUGE, 867px
204
205	## VPN
206	* NordVPN: HUGE, 902px