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2012-03-01 22:30:31	kandala	Hello all, I am using Watir with headless on a ubuntu server box. I have installed xvfb and when I run my script, I get an error saying "Could not find firefox binary (os=linux). Make sure firefox is installed or set the path manually". Do we actually need to install firefox on the server to run the Watir headless script ?
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2012-03-01 23:45:29	zeljko	yes, you need to install firefox if you want to drive it :)
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2012-03-02 16:41:32	gheegh	Hey all.. having a heck of a time scripting something.. I need some advice.
2012-03-02 16:43:18	gheegh	I have an iframe, that the content is rendered via Javascript.. I need to be able to retrieve the information in that iframe.
2012-03-02 16:47:17	zeljko	what is the problem?
2012-03-02 16:47:29	zeljko	the best thing is if you could provide link to the page
2012-03-02 16:49:23	gheegh	OK. This is the page with the links I can click. I can do this. I am clicking links with an MSDS. THen, it opens a page I can't manage to do anything with.  http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/Lookup.do?N5=All&N3=mode+matchpartialmax&N4=L-Cysteine&D7=0&D10=L-Cysteine&N1=S_ID&ST=RS&N25=0&F=PR
2012-03-02 16:51:09	gheegh	if you click that page, then click the first MSDS, you'll get a page that I can't manage to process.. I need to be able to retrieve (into memory is OK) that PDF that is generated, to do a check for updates.
2012-03-02 16:55:33	gheegh	Here is the script I'm using so far. https://gist.github.com/1962101
2012-03-02 17:11:25	zeljko	watir or watir-webdriver gem?
2012-03-02 17:18:36	zeljko	you just want to check if the pdf is on the page?
2012-03-02 17:18:39	zeljko	or download it?
2012-03-02 17:19:14	gheegh	watir-webdriver gem
2012-03-02 17:19:36	gheegh	i'm trying to get the text from the pdf so i can scan it
2012-03-02 17:19:59	zeljko	the problem is that pdf is rendered by a pdf plugin right?
2012-03-02 17:20:13	zeljko	and watir can not access contents
2012-03-02 17:20:15	gheegh	yes.. i think..
2012-03-02 17:20:19	zeljko	pdf, flash...
2012-03-02 17:20:35	jarib	gheegh: use http://watirwebdriver.com/browser-downloads/ to download the pdf to disk, then use a ruby pdf library to read it
2012-03-02 17:21:38	gheegh	when i click on that link.. i see the frame..
2012-03-02 17:22:14	zeljko	but?
2012-03-02 17:22:21	gheegh	but there's nothing in it.
2012-03-02 17:22:34	jarib	that's odd
2012-03-02 17:22:40	jarib	works for me
2012-03-02 17:22:43	gheegh	Oh?
2012-03-02 17:22:55	gheegh	Maybe I don't know what I"m doing.. :-)
2012-03-02 17:23:08	gheegh	i'm a ruby programmer.. but I don't use watir much.
2012-03-02 17:23:26	jarib	you're talking about this link, right? http://watirwebdriver.com/browser-downloads/
2012-03-02 17:23:36	zeljko	if you are using firefox, then probably webdriver firefox profile does not have pdf plugin installed or enabled
2012-03-02 17:23:45	zeljko	so you are probably seeing a blank space instead of pdf
2012-03-02 17:23:53	gheegh	no, I'm talking about the frame..
2012-03-02 17:23:59	zeljko	try with chrome, it should have pdf support by default
2012-03-02 17:24:04	gheegh	jarib: I'm going to try that now
2012-03-02 17:24:05	jarib	the link i pasted explains how to do this.
2012-03-02 17:24:30	zeljko	jarib: you are in the US now, right?
2012-03-02 17:24:31	jarib	once the pdf is on disk, use the pdf-reader gem to pull things out of it.
2012-03-02 17:25:00	zeljko	jarib: anyway, see you next week
2012-03-02 17:25:54	jarib	yes, just arrived in San Francisco (have been in Santa Clara since monday)
2012-03-02 17:25:56	jarib	where are you now?
2012-03-02 17:27:18	zeljko	Guadalajara, Mexico
2012-03-02 17:27:39	zeljko	flying to Austin on Wednesday
2012-03-02 17:27:56	gheegh	jarib: i do a lot of pdf processing.. so I am cool then once it's on disk
2012-03-02 17:28:11	gheegh	i'll try chrome as well
2012-03-02 17:28:11	gheegh	thanks
2012-03-02 17:29:43	zeljko	glad I could help (if you are thanking me) :)
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2012-03-05 12:25:45	gheegh	Hi all. I'm looking for some guidance. I can't manage to get access to a PDF or its info from within Watir. i'm not sure what I"m doing wrong, but i've been fighting this issue for a couple of days now. Anyone have guidance? I'm trying to retrieve the PDF so I can parse it and pull information from it.  https://gist.github.com/1962101
2012-03-05 12:33:08	gheegh	basically.. there is an embed tag. and I can get to it.. but how do I get the pdf that is contained in it?
2012-03-05 12:54:00	zeljko	not sure
2012-03-05 12:54:17	zeljko	I remember trying it a few days ago, but I did not have the time to play with it since
2012-03-05 13:34:29	gheegh	zeljko: yeah, it's really frustrating.. I'm a fairly good ruby programmer.. i would have thought I'd have figured it out by now..
2012-03-05 13:36:09	gheegh	zeljko: So, the issue, I think, is that there is a plugin that is javascript that is run insie of an iframe that renders the "pdf".  this is the issue.
2012-03-05 13:36:26	gheegh	so, the browser doesn't see it as a pdf that needs to be downloaded.
2012-03-05 13:47:40	gheegh	Does anyone know anyone that consults on Watir that could be willing to help out.. on such a small thing? I'm very willing to pay to solve this problem.
2012-03-05 13:51:15	zeljko	gheegh: I will have some time this week
2012-03-05 13:51:45	gheegh	zeljko: Thanks. I don't think for an expert it will take that long.. this should either "work" or "not work" ..
2012-03-05 13:52:00	zeljko	one solution that comes to mind is to try to open the page with a browser that does not have pdf plugin
2012-03-05 13:52:14	zeljko	maybe then the browser will offer to automatically download the file
2012-03-05 13:52:39	gheegh	zeljko: yep.. tried that.. i've turned off everything but java.. and it still renders in a browser.. might be the way i'm doing it..
2012-03-05 13:52:53	zeljko	in chrome, or ff?
2012-03-05 13:53:22	zeljko	I think chrome has pdf plugin built in, ff probably does not
2012-03-05 13:54:20	zeljko	gheegh:
2012-03-05 13:54:29	zeljko	this is your question at watir-general?
2012-03-05 13:54:30	zeljko	https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups&hl=en_US#!topic/watir-general/WPY7JFmY3so
2012-03-05 13:55:44	gheegh	zeljko: that's me.
2012-03-05 13:56:03	zeljko	ok, will reply there this week
2012-03-05 13:56:38	zeljko	maybe today, but I am not sure, I am traveling this week, so there will probably other stuff to do
2012-03-05 13:57:28	gheegh	zeljko: Understood.. I'd love the help. It's a simple thing, but it's holding back a large chunk of "delivering".  So, thanks.. You've got my profile there.. I'm happy to give you my email or whatever.
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2012-03-07 16:50:31	gheegh	Anyone around that might be able to help with an issue? I've now been stuck on for almost a week.  Basically.. i can SEE the document I want in the browser, but I can't seem to access it.. its in an iframe, and it's "rendered" via javascript.. here's my code so far https://gist.github.com/1962101
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2012-03-13 13:09:14	conky	jarib: ping
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2012-03-14 09:31:02	fabrice31	did you try with a code like ie.radio(:name => 'bla', :index => 1).set ?
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2012-03-14 11:37:01	rcrossan	@fabrice31 I just tried that, no error this time, but also didn't see that it did anything in the browser.  I'll play with that suggestion, could be on right path.
2012-03-14 11:40:01	rcrossan	n/m I miss typed something, I corrected it to do what you suggested just now and it worked! Thank you so much.
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2012-03-14 16:50:46	watirwd	[watir-webdriver] jarib pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/fJPkoA
2012-03-14 16:50:46	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Correctly namespace exception when browser was already closed. Closes #127. - Jari Bakken
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2012-03-14 16:57:59	travis-ci	[travis-ci] watir/watir-webdriver#56 (master - e760dcf : Jari Bakken): The build passed.
2012-03-14 16:57:59	travis-ci	[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/watir/watir-webdriver/compare/4d516c9...e760dcf
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2012-03-14 17:03:18	cwang	can anyone help me with isolating cucumber scenarios with watir? I want to restart the session without having to close the browser after each scenario is executed
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2012-03-15 12:49:40	cwang	is there a way to select children elements?
2012-03-15 12:50:20	cwang	for example I want to select the first link within a div with an id
2012-03-15 12:52:07	zeljko	browser.div.a
2012-03-15 12:52:22	zeljko	or, more verbose
2012-03-15 12:54:35	zeljko	browser.div(:id => "id").a
2012-03-15 12:54:42	zeljko	or, even more verbose
2012-03-15 12:55:06	zeljko	browser.div(:id => "id").a(:index => 1)
2012-03-15 12:55:29	zeljko	browser.div.a will click the first link in the first div
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2012-03-15 14:49:40	cwang	zeljko, thanks got it! :)
2012-03-15 15:00:43	zeljko	cwang: glad I could help :)
2012-03-15 15:00:57	cwang	zeljko, you are the creator?
2012-03-15 15:11:06	zeljko	cwang: of watir? no
2012-03-15 15:11:39	zeljko	bret and paul created it, nowdays jarib and jarm0 work on it mostly
2012-03-15 15:13:07	zeljko	read all about it here
2012-03-15 15:13:09	zeljko	https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/watirbook/blob/master/about.md
2012-03-15 15:13:21	zeljko	https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/watirbook/blob/master/about_extended.md
2012-03-15 15:28:58	cwang	zeljko: I  just downloaded the book. I just started using watir yesterday.
2012-03-15 15:29:08	cwang	zeljko: will have to read the book in my spare time
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2012-03-15 15:55:29	zeljko	I am looking forward to the comments :)
2012-03-15 15:55:40	zeljko	I hope to have more time to work on the book soon
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2012-03-15 16:12:15	cwang	zeljko: maybe you can help me with this. so I'm using cucumber with watir to test to see if some text exists on page
2012-03-15 16:12:56	cwang	zeljko: basically I click a click and then I do something like @browser.text.include? "foobar"
2012-03-15 16:13:15	cwang	the result should return false, but my test passes with a green state
2012-03-15 16:25:20	cwang	zeljko: not sure why that happens, but I came up with a different solution
2012-03-15 16:25:45	cwang	zeljko: I'll probably try to help contribute to the project or report issues when I can
2012-03-15 16:38:05	zeljko	cwang: you should use "should"
2012-03-15 16:38:26	zeljko	@browser.text.should include "foobar"
2012-03-15 16:38:33	cwang	oh
2012-03-15 16:38:42	zeljko	(please check the syntax, I am not sure I got it right)
2012-03-15 16:38:46	zeljko	but something like that
2012-03-15 16:39:35	cwang	zeljko: yeah, I ended up doing something like @browser.spans.first.text.should == "foobar"
2012-03-15 16:39:50	cwang	zeljko: I'll play around with it a little bit more later
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2012-03-16 14:31:28	cwang	I'm running into an issue where I'm running my test suite, where I am getting this exception. Modal dialog present (Selenium::WebDriver::Error::UnhandledAlertError)
2012-03-16 14:32:17	cwang	I read some posts on stackoverflow about possibly handling this issue
2012-03-16 14:32:46	cwang	but I I want to run this in my after hook for cucumber scenarios on dealing with this because it ends up breaking the rest of my tests
2012-03-16 14:35:37	cwang	any suggestions on how to dismiss this popup in my after hook? because it is blocking the rest of my tests
2012-03-16 15:10:05	jarib	cwang: why in the After hook? your test should know when to expect popups
2012-03-16 15:11:00	jarib	in any case, browser.driver.switch_to.alert.dismiss should do the trick
2012-03-16 15:11:27	cwang	jarib: I am not expecting the popup, I think its occuring because of a js error
2012-03-16 15:11:54	cwang	it seems intermittent
2012-03-16 15:12:30	cwang	well basically in my after hook I am restarting the session by logging the user out of the system I'm testing
2012-03-16 15:12:31	jarib	then that's a bug and the test is correct in failing
2012-03-16 15:12:40	cwang	and if there is an error it won't execute any further commands
2012-03-16 15:12:55	cwang	jarib: yes that is true
2012-03-16 15:13:27	cwang	jarib: I was just seeing if there was a way to dismiss the popup, which you have provided :)
2012-03-16 15:13:28	jarib	if that error is raised, the dialog will be dismissed automatically
2012-03-16 15:13:48	jarib	so you could just rescue the error and continue
2012-03-16 15:14:39	cwang	yeah, I was thinking of how to handle the the rescue
2012-03-16 15:15:34	cwang	does browser.driver.switch_to.alert.dismiss work with firefox/chrome?
2012-03-16 15:15:54	jarib	yes
2012-03-16 15:18:43	cwang	jarib: cool thanks for you help
2012-03-16 15:18:47	cwang	your*
2012-03-16 15:20:27	jarib	np
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2012-03-19 13:12:14	cwang	so I'm using cucumber + watir-webdriver. I'm wondering how I could toggle the headless environment setup listed here: http://watir.com/2011/01/22/simple-cucumber-watir-page-object-pattern-framework/
2012-03-19 14:41:49	cwang	I'm wondering how I can deal with Modal dialog present (Selenium::WebDriver::Error::UnhandledAlertError)
2012-03-19 14:42:14	cwang	when I run the tests I can hear that a popup occurs, but I don't visually see it
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2012-03-20 09:18:37	rcrossan	been trying to access a java-menu that has a selection in the collapsed tree that I wish to select. I am not receiving an error, the script passes, but the selection is not changing. Any ideas? https://gist.github.com/2136878
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2012-03-20 10:10:00	zeljko	rcrossan: java-menu?
2012-03-20 10:13:57	rcrossan	its basically a drop down that has collapsed selections. I had noticed reading the source in firebug that it states java-menu at the beginning of the coding for that menu. All the watir recorders do not find an element using that menu except webmetrics. I am wondering if the elements I need access to though will be better handled with watir 3.0. I read the pre release is available as of 3/18
2012-03-20 10:15:25	rcrossan	here is a link for gist that shows the source code of what I am trying to select. https://gist.github.com/2137096
2012-03-20 10:21:42	zeljko	have to go now, but will take a look later, I saw you post at watir-general, will reply there
2012-03-20 10:30:08	rcrossan	thanks for any suggestions!
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2012-03-21 14:27:16	watirwd	[watir-webdriver] jarib pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/EQtzaQ
2012-03-21 14:27:16	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Fix for 1.8 users - Jari Bakken
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2012-03-21 14:38:31	travis-ci	[travis-ci] watir/watir-webdriver#61 (master - 069470f : Jari Bakken): The build passed.
2012-03-21 14:38:31	travis-ci	[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/watir/watir-webdriver/compare/66ca293...069470f
2012-03-21 14:38:31	travis-ci	[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/watir/watir-webdriver/builds/917041
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2012-03-21 22:00:28	thetrav	is this channel about the watir-webdriver framework?
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2012-03-22 12:09:37	rcrossan	trying to use win32screenshot. When I require such gem then I received error: test_me(My_test) LoadError: no such file to load -- watir/ie. Thought if I run the script without adding require win32/screenshot then script runs with no errors so I know I must be missing something to allow win32/screenshot to run. I have reviewed https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/watir-general/s_yymff1qig...
2012-03-22 12:09:39	rcrossan	...and have updated my gems, rubygems, and watir, but still only errors with win32screenshot included in script.
2012-03-22 12:13:59	jarib	rcrossan: are you using watir-webdriver?
2012-03-22 12:16:47	rcrossan	dont think so
2012-03-22 12:35:58	zeljko	Page Objects and Cucumber charity workshop live streaming! kondoot.com/watir #watirbazaar
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2012-03-22 15:32:11	charleyb	zeljko: how do you handle common page "fragments" or "partials" like header/footer/etc :)
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2012-03-22 15:39:03	@charleyb	anyone?
2012-03-22 15:40:43	zeljko	charleyb: I am here
2012-03-22 15:40:56	zeljko	not there yet :)
2012-03-22 15:40:59	zeljko	will ask
2012-03-22 15:48:56	zeljko	listen to chzy now :)
2012-03-22 15:49:06	zeljko	talking about partials right now
2012-03-22 15:50:11	@charleyb	bwahaha :)
2012-03-22 15:52:44	@charleyb	it was somewhat of a leading question :)
2012-03-22 15:53:58	zeljko	did not even have the time to ask, he just started talking about that
2012-03-22 15:59:10	 *	jarib uses modules
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2012-03-22 16:06:19	@charleyb	partials are pages
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2012-03-23 08:52:11	DMcNulla	Can people on kondoot hear the questions?
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2012-03-23 09:34:47	bret	Please link to your presentations here.
2012-03-23 09:34:49	bret	https://github.com/watir/watir-bazaar/wiki/Presentations
2012-03-23 09:34:56	bret	I just added Alan's presentation
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2012-03-23 09:36:39	bret	just added hugh's
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2012-03-23 09:52:25	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Prepare for translating to CSS over XPath (#37). - Jari Bakken
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2012-03-23 09:56:12	hmcgowan	Lol That Rocks, Jari
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2012-03-23 12:52:22	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Remove deprecated API: Browser#clear_cookies. Use Browser#cookies instead. - Jari Bakken
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2012-03-23 13:00:39	zeljko	link to the page with list of the tools from my lighting talk https://github.com/watir/watir-bazaar/wiki/Tools
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2012-03-23 15:28:53	aikhelis	hi everyone
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2012-03-23 15:51:58	jarib	hi aikhelis
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2012-03-26 10:58:35	ImthePC	zeljko: Have you kicked anyone's ass since your presentation?
2012-03-26 11:00:14	ImthePC	jarib: ping
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2012-03-26 13:08:13	ImthePC	have people seen speedups using ie with the prefer_css set to true?
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2012-03-27 09:29:16	fabrice31	rcrossan : I use cucumber and I do that.
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2012-03-27 12:21:44	orko	How would you test layout stuff?
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2012-03-28 13:49:29	git	[watir-classic/master] update for watir-classic - Hugh McGowan
2012-03-28 13:49:29	git	[watir-classic/master] remove firewatir from project - Hugh McGowan
2012-03-28 13:49:29	git	[watir-classic/master] move common-watir libs into watir - Hugh McGowan
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2012-03-29 10:03:05	rcrossan	I have tried a few output loggers. Could anyone recommend which direction I could try for logging everything my script does without having to assign each line (as I want everything to show in log). I was using ci/reporter for test unit loader which was working great, but doesn't appear to work when I want to include win32/screenshot
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2012-03-29 14:30:54	marekj	rcrossan: take a look ag 'logging' gem. Are you running your tests in Rspec or Cucumber harness?
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2012-04-02 11:47:44	rcrossan	using watir 3.0 R3 and my select list is no longer working
2012-04-02 11:47:48	rcrossan	know issue?
2012-04-02 11:47:56	rcrossan	I couldn't find anything in jira
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2012-04-02 12:48:31	rcrossan	I figured it out, not sure how it was working before but had to go from ie.select_list(:name, 'pricing_xtn_type_no').select_value('pricing_type_no,20') to ie.form(:id, 'options-for-RTK::VOD::Reports::ProviderComparison').select_list(:name, 'pricing_xtn_type_no').select('TOD')
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2012-04-03 10:25:38	delaf	hi. Why "find_all" works so slow?
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2012-04-10 11:04:35	dougnoel	Howdy folks.  I am trying to verify the text of an <acronym> tag.  I was able to do it with the element tag like so: @browser.element(:id => /expense_code(.*)/).text
2012-04-10 11:05:49	dougnoel	But it takes about a minute to resolve.  I'm QA and not a developer.  The developers have said they have plans to remove this tag.  In the mean time, is there a faster way I can deal with this tag?  As there is no acronym object.  FRom looking at the Watir code, it seems like the tag objects are automatically created from the HTML5 spec.
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2012-04-11 13:45:22	dougnoel	jarib, I combined your suggestions and someone else's from Stack Overflow and came up with this:
2012-04-11 13:45:30	dougnoel	@browser.element(:xpath => "//acronym[contains(@class, \'editable select fillwith:exp_codes default:#{expense_code}\')]").text
2012-04-11 13:45:40	dougnoel	It's much faster.  Thanks :)
2012-04-11 13:46:57	jarib	oh
2012-04-11 13:46:57	jarib	hm
2012-04-11 13:47:17	dougnoel	Thoughts?
2012-04-11 13:47:25	jarib	if default:xxx is a unique class on the page, you could also do .element(:tag_name => "acronym", :class => "default:#{expense_code}")
2012-04-11 13:47:38	jarib	otherwise that xpath looks ok
2012-04-11 13:47:50	dougnoel	I tried that, and I got an error with the tag_name
2012-04-11 13:47:57	dougnoel	I think.
2012-04-11 13:48:01	dougnoel	Let me try that again though.
2012-04-11 13:49:03	dougnoel	I tried this earlier, and it couldn't find it: @browser.element(:class, "editable select fillwith:exp_codes default:#{expense_code}").text
2012-04-11 13:49:26	jarib	that should work
2012-04-11 13:49:37	dougnoel	That's what I thought
2012-04-11 13:49:44	jarib	or even just "default:#{expense_code}", if that's unique
2012-04-11 13:50:03	jarib	it shouldn't need the full class attribute
2012-04-11 13:50:09	dougnoel	Oh really?
2012-04-11 13:50:10	jarib	(assuming you're on a recent version of watir-webdriver)
2012-04-11 13:50:11	dougnoel	ok
2012-04-11 13:50:19	jarib	no, :class is special in that regard.
2012-04-11 13:50:33	jarib	it will understand the space delimited list of class names.
2012-04-11 13:50:41	dougnoel	I'm using 0.5.3
2012-04-11 13:50:47	dougnoel	Here's my post on SO: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10093114/how-can-i-find-an-acronym-tag-with-watir-webdriver-without-taking-a-huge-perfo
2012-04-11 13:52:22	jarib	what comment indicates the code isn't generated from the spec?
2012-04-11 13:52:45	dougnoel	I will go find it
2012-04-11 13:53:19	dougnoel	It was near the top of element.rb I believe
2012-04-11 13:53:24	jarib	also, <acronym> isn't in the spec
2012-04-11 13:53:41	dougnoel	Yeah I know it isn't.  I looked it up.
2012-04-11 13:53:43	jarib	it's supposed to be <abbr>
2012-04-11 13:54:05	jarib	ah, i see what comment you're thinking of
2012-04-11 13:54:11	jarib	it's just badly phrased
2012-04-11 13:54:12	dougnoel	Ah ok
2012-04-11 13:55:38	dougnoel	So this ran, but took longer than the xpath version by about 7-8 seconds.  Not really significant with one run through, but...
2012-04-11 13:55:39	dougnoel	@browser.element(:tag_name => "acronym", :class => "default:#{expense_code}").text
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2012-04-11 13:56:55	jarib	well, a single run can be impacted by a lot of external factors
2012-04-11 13:57:05	jarib	are you benchmarking it properly?
2012-04-11 13:57:18	dougnoel	Oh hell no. :)
2012-04-11 13:57:19	jarib	i.e. not benchmarking launching the browser, navigating to the page etc?
2012-04-11 13:57:36	jarib	i'd be very surprised if it was significantly slower
2012-04-11 13:57:53	dougnoel	Nah I'm just going by the total cucumber run.  I don't have any benchmarking set up.  Any suggestions on what I should use for that?
2012-04-11 13:58:20	jarib	you'd need to write a custom script if you want to benchmark one selector vs another
2012-04-11 13:58:31	jarib	there's no tool to help with that that i'm aware of
2012-04-11 13:58:37	dougnoel	ok
2012-04-11 13:58:45	dougnoel	I could drop in some timestamps
2012-04-11 13:59:02	dougnoel	I saw something soemone wrote that added a timestamp to each step
2012-04-11 13:59:30	dougnoel	I'd wanna run it like 30 times to get a good number.
2012-04-11 14:00:43	jarib	30.times { browser.element(...).exists? }
2012-04-11 14:01:23	dougnoel	Ooh yeah....I forgot about that.  I'm a QA guy by trade. :D  Been a few years since I've used Ruby.
2012-04-11 14:01:59	dougnoel	I just ran the "faster" one though and got a similar slower time within half a second, so I think you're right that the performance is the same.
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2012-04-11 14:47:57	git	[watir-classic/master] currentStyle.cssText doesn't work as expected on IE9, reverting to regular .style - Jarmo Pertman
2012-04-11 14:47:57	git	[watir-classic/master] make drag and drop work for IE9 too - Jarmo Pertman
2012-04-11 14:47:57	git	[watir-classic/master] #execute_script runs JavaScript in an anonymous function, make sure to use "return" statement if value is needed back in Ruby - Jarmo Pertman
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2012-04-13 12:31:35	hemanth1	hello jarib
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2012-04-16 09:17:49	hemanth1	jarib: hello, wrt https://github.com/watir/watir-webdriver/issues/134 it's bombing in IE8-WIN7; works well with FF11 with ruby 1.9.3 and latest cut of watir-webdriver
2012-04-16 09:18:38	jarib	hemanth1: yeah, i missed that. but the example you provided is not complete
2012-04-16 09:18:43	jarib	it's going to pass on IE as well
2012-04-16 09:19:48	hemanth1	on IE the code which you have given is failing
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2012-04-16 09:22:36	hemanth1	The example is same as the code, the structure is like "html/body/table/tbody/tr[2]/td[2]/div[2]/form/div[2]/div/div[5]/input[1]"
2012-04-16 09:23:00	hemanth1	there are Save and Cancel buttons
2012-04-16 09:23:07	hemanth1	input[1] is save
2012-04-16 09:26:40	hemanth1	jarib: flash works, but not click; the code you have given in that gist; says can't find element with xpath
2012-04-16 09:26:41	jarib	hemanth1: the HTML you've included is not enough to reproduce the problem: http://files.jaribakken.com/tmp/ie-works.png
2012-04-16 09:28:12	jarib	hemanth1: does this script work on your machine? https://gist.github.com/2399135
2012-04-16 09:28:49	hemanth1	trying
2012-04-16 09:28:53	hemanth1	one min please
2012-04-16 09:32:17	hemanth1	jarib: ya that it working! Ill just curl the webpage where i have the issue and give it, it has some stuff that I can't share and the structure is bit complex; hmm
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2012-04-16 09:34:36	jarib	hemanth1: that's what I meant by creating a minimal example.
2012-04-16 09:34:57	jarib	hemanth1: i.e. a minimal example that will actually reproduce the problem
2012-04-16 09:35:19	hemanth1	roger that
2012-04-16 09:35:24	jarib	good advice here: http://sscce.org/
2012-04-16 09:37:52	hemanth1	:)
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2012-04-16 09:56:24	hemanth1	jarib: not able to get a neat sscce, but here is the nasty code https://raw.github.com/gist/f91cd3f2acda22514aac/664757edf43782aef51d1deb8b1539802982a5b5/crap.html :(
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2012-04-16 10:05:07	 *	hemanth1 is a GNU/Linux fan, but forceable need to make some automation framework, to work on wind0w$ machine ….#duh
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2012-04-16 10:06:18	hemanth1	jarib: bad?
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2012-04-16 10:37:11	hemanth2	jarib: sorry if I have missed your message, internet connect is bit flaky today
2012-04-16 10:38:42	jarib	hemanth2: i'll look at the script later, got to run
2012-04-16 10:39:04	hemanth2	jarib: okies, i made a video also, i will just paste the link
2012-04-16 10:39:46	hemanth2	jarib: http://h3manth.com/error.mov
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2012-04-16 17:45:05	aikhelis	anyone (except jarib) is to be on Selenium COnf tomorrow?
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2012-04-17 10:07:59	rcrossan	 `%': invalid value for Float(): "NaN" (ArgumentError) but I have no percentage. the line it refers to is   rescue => e
2012-04-17 10:08:01	rcrossan	    puts $!
2012-04-17 10:08:02	rcrossan	    puts e.backtrace
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2012-04-17 10:14:01	hemanth1	jarib: ok, i will try to get a sscce
2012-04-17 10:14:33	hemanth1	jarib: thank you for the replies, you must be busy getting ready for the conf, i presume
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2012-04-18 10:02:10	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/selenium-webdriver-testing] Bump to 2.21.2.rc1 - Jari Bakken
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2012-04-18 12:26:32	zeljko	cheezy: do you have an example somewhere on how to use page-object gem with rspec?
2012-04-18 12:27:01	cheezy	I don't think I've every posted one.  Let me create a gist
2012-04-18 12:27:23	zeljko	it is pretty much clear to me how to do it, just wondering is there a convention where to put "pages" folder
2012-04-18 12:27:52	zeljko	and where to do magic so stuff like this works
2012-04-18 12:28:00	zeljko	on_page(LoginPage).login...
2012-04-18 12:29:13	cheezy	no magic place for the pages - perhaps create a pages directory under spec?
2012-04-18 12:29:34	zeljko	and if I want to use both rspec and cucumber in the same project? :)
2012-04-18 12:29:42	zeljko	then pages directory in root?
2012-04-18 12:30:44	cheezy	take a look at this -> https://gist.github.com/2415279
2012-04-18 12:31:05	zeljko	I am pretty sure that I will use page-object gem in at least couple of projects in the next few weeks
2012-04-18 12:31:15	cheezy	If the test is purely a test project then create a lib directory and place your pages, matchers, factories, etc in that
2012-04-18 12:31:17	zeljko	I am investigating it
2012-04-18 12:31:55	zeljko	so far, both of the projects I am working on right now, the repository I am working on is just tests
2012-04-18 12:32:01	zeljko	I do not have access to production code
2012-04-18 12:32:18	cheezy	I think I should write a blog post with a more complete example
2012-04-18 12:32:32	zeljko	so lib/pages sounds like a good place
2012-04-18 12:32:44	cheezy	yes
2012-04-18 12:32:57	zeljko	I think it is important that we have a convention
2012-04-18 12:33:07	zeljko	"the place where stuff goes"
2012-04-18 12:33:15	cheezy	If the project is a rails project then lib would not be appropriate
2012-04-18 12:33:26	cheezy	if it is a pure test project the lib seems to be the best location
2012-04-18 12:33:37	zeljko	at the moment, only tests live in my repo
2012-04-18 12:42:17	zeljko	what does line 22 do?
2012-04-18 12:42:18	zeljko	https://gist.github.com/2415279#L22
2012-04-18 12:45:12	zeljko	and is there a way to define base url for the site?
2012-04-18 12:45:16	zeljko	so you could do something like
2012-04-18 12:45:18	zeljko	page_url "#{site}login"
2012-04-18 12:49:03	cheezy	line 22 is defining a route through the system.  You can have several.  It is what allows us to make calls like the one on line 41
2012-04-18 12:49:49	cheezy	i'm working on a new gem that handles config related info like base_url, etc.  it will be called fignewton
2012-04-18 12:50:49	zeljko	great name :)
2012-04-18 12:52:16	zeljko	thanks a lot, got page-object working with rspec
2012-04-18 12:52:48	zeljko	I do not why I thought on_page would open the page
2012-04-18 12:53:01	zeljko	now I see that to open the page I have to use visit_page
2012-04-18 12:53:18	cheezy	yes
2012-04-18 12:53:30	cheezy	or there are short version - on HomePage and visit HomePage
2012-04-18 12:53:30	zeljko	and navigate_to would use the route?
2012-04-18 12:53:44	cheezy	yes.  by default it uses a route with the key :route
2012-04-18 12:54:00	zeljko	is there any documentation on that?
2012-04-18 12:54:09	cheezy	if you define another route name :some_other_route you can use it by calling navigate_to(SomePage, :using => :some_other_route)
2012-04-18 12:54:14	cheezy	yes - rdocs for it
2012-04-18 12:54:24	zeljko	thanks, will take a look
2012-04-18 12:54:31	cheezy	there is also continue_navigation_to which continues the route where you stopped
2012-04-18 12:54:42	cheezy	look at rdoc for PageFactory
2012-04-18 12:54:50	zeljko	will do, thanks
2012-04-18 12:56:25	zeljko	is there an easy way to sometimes drive the browser at your machine, and sometimes run the tests at sauce labs (for example)?
2012-04-18 12:57:05	zeljko	for example, while you are developing, you use the local browser, but CI runs at sauce labs
2012-04-18 12:58:26	 *	zeljko brb
2012-04-18 12:58:37	cheezy	I typically use profiles to set an environment variable to define driver
2012-04-18 12:59:08	cheezy	you could then place logic in your RSpec.configure to initialize the appropriate driver based on the ENV
2012-04-18 13:18:39	zeljko	it would be great if you posted some sample code
2012-04-18 13:18:44	zeljko	but I think I got the idea
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2012-04-18 14:30:46	zeljko	did you ever use page-object with test/unit? (not a joke)
2012-04-18 14:31:13	cheezy	no
2012-04-18 14:33:03	zeljko	but there should be no problems, right?
2012-04-18 14:33:33	zeljko	got into a project that uses test/unit, will try to use page-object there too, will see how it goes
2012-04-18 14:37:33	cheezy	I think there should be no problems
2012-04-18 14:38:13	cheezy	I think Tiffany is using it with TestUnit
2012-04-18 14:42:47	zeljko	great, will ask her if I get into trouble
2012-04-18 14:45:16	zeljko	I promise this is the last thing :)
2012-04-18 14:45:40	zeljko	how do I check if the browser opened the correct url?
2012-04-18 14:46:07	zeljko	something like @browser.url.should == HomePage.url
2012-04-18 14:46:26	cheezy	there is a current_url method
2012-04-18 14:46:44	zeljko	just found it in rdoc
2012-04-18 14:46:51	cheezy	@brwoser.current_url.should == ???
2012-04-18 14:47:07	zeljko	oh
2012-04-18 14:47:38	zeljko	there is no way for me to ask the page for it's URL?
2012-04-18 14:48:02	zeljko	something linke
2012-04-18 14:48:06	zeljko	something like
2012-04-18 14:48:11	zeljko	@browser.url.should == HomePage.url
2012-04-18 14:48:39	zeljko	I have set page url with page_url
2012-04-18 14:49:30	zeljko	I am creating a simple security test, with a few roles I am opening all pages, and checking if admin can see all of them, and other roles are redirected to home page if they can not see a page
2012-04-18 14:51:52	cheezy	sorry - @page.current_url
2012-04-18 14:52:03	cheezy	or on(HomePage).current_url
2012-04-18 14:52:38	cheezy	I'm having three conversations at once - and losing context (and my mind)
2012-04-18 14:53:22	zeljko	sorry :)
2012-04-18 14:53:34	zeljko	ok, so current_url is what I need then
2012-04-18 14:55:35	zeljko	argh
2012-04-18 14:55:40	zeljko	problems
2012-04-18 14:55:56	zeljko	will create gist
2012-04-18 15:00:22	zeljko	https://gist.github.com/2416140
2012-04-18 15:00:27	zeljko	am I doing something wrong?
2012-04-18 15:01:56	cheezy	current_url is an instance method and not a class method
2012-04-18 15:02:00	cheezy	try this:
2012-04-18 15:02:10	cheezy	visut(HomePage) do |page|
2012-04-18 15:02:24	cheezy	  @browser.url.should == page.current_url
2012-04-18 15:02:25	cheezy	end
2012-04-18 15:02:39	zeljko	sorry, had to delete that gist, this is the new one
2012-04-18 15:02:40	zeljko	https://gist.github.com/2416149
2012-04-18 15:03:00	zeljko	thanks, will try
2012-04-18 15:04:01	cheezy	or you could do
2012-04-18 15:04:17	cheezy	visit(HomePage).current_url.should == "the expected url"
2012-04-18 15:07:20	zeljko	well, I am expecting (in this case) current_url :)
2012-04-18 15:07:53	zeljko	not sure if I am explaining what I want to do
2012-04-18 15:08:14	cheezy	explain it well or i'll kick your ass!
2012-04-18 15:10:18	zeljko	in short, visit a bunch of pages and check if the page opened, or if you were redirected to another page
2012-04-18 15:10:28	zeljko	so mainly
2012-04-18 15:10:35	zeljko	visit SomePage
2012-04-18 15:10:50	zeljko	and then check if the browser URL is the same as page url
2012-04-18 15:11:14	cheezy	they will always be the same - page-object is delegating to watir-webdriver to get the current_url
2012-04-18 15:11:23	cheezy	instead you should use your expectation
2012-04-18 15:11:38	cheezy	when you visit(HomePage) you expect to be on http://foobar.com
2012-04-18 15:11:44	cheezy	so you can do this
2012-04-18 15:11:58	cheezy	visit(HomePage).current_url.should == 'http://foobar.com'
2012-04-18 15:12:28	zeljko	I would like to avoid having urls in the specs
2012-04-18 15:12:40	zeljko	since pages already should know their URLs
2012-04-18 15:12:41	cheezy	where are you getting your list of expected urls?
2012-04-18 15:13:00	zeljko	in my page object implementation, every page knows it's URL
2012-04-18 15:13:07	zeljko	so I can do something like
2012-04-18 15:13:13	zeljko	visit AdminPage
2012-04-18 15:13:18	zeljko	and if user is not admin
2012-04-18 15:13:34	zeljko	@browser.url.should == LoginPage.url
2012-04-18 15:13:39	zeljko	and if user is admin
2012-04-18 15:13:49	zeljko	@browser.url.should == AdminPage.url
2012-04-18 15:13:52	zeljko	something like that
2012-04-18 15:13:54	cheezy	visit_page(LoginPage).current_url.should == LoginPage.url
2012-04-18 15:14:19	zeljko	yes, something like that
2012-04-18 15:14:24	cheezy	then use that
2012-04-18 15:14:27	zeljko	I could not find "url" method
2012-04-18 15:14:39	zeljko	I actually tried that
2012-04-18 15:14:48	zeljko	let my try again, maybe I messed it up
2012-04-18 15:14:53	cheezy	you are right
2012-04-18 15:15:07	cheezy	Let me make a mod to your gist
2012-04-18 15:15:14	zeljko	please do
2012-04-18 15:15:56	zeljko	(gist is here https://gist.github.com/2416149 )
2012-04-18 15:18:25	cheezy	the problem is that site is a local variable of the class
2012-04-18 15:18:43	zeljko	yes, I have been looking at the implementation
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2012-04-18 15:19:32	cheezy	there are a couple of ways to solve this
2012-04-18 15:19:32	zeljko	if it were a method, or instance variable, then it could be made accessible
2012-04-18 15:19:52	cheezy	you can add a class method -> example in the gist
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2012-04-18 15:20:22	cheezy	and now you can do HomePage.site
2012-04-18 15:21:41	cheezy	I think that should work
2012-04-18 15:22:23	zeljko	sorry, the example was bad
2012-04-18 15:22:27	zeljko	I have changed the file
2012-04-18 15:23:27	zeljko	site variable is there temporarily, I did not know how to provide base URL to all pages, so for now I just add it to all classes as local variable, will fix later
2012-04-18 15:25:11	zeljko	take a look at home_page.rb now, I think this should work, will try
2012-04-18 15:26:38	cheezy	let me know
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2012-04-18 15:34:45	zeljko	this now works
2012-04-18 15:34:46	zeljko	https://gist.github.com/2416149
2012-04-18 15:35:00	zeljko	thanks a lot for all the help
2012-04-18 15:35:18	zeljko	there will be beer when we meet again :)
2012-04-18 15:35:37	 *	zeljko be right back
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2012-04-18 21:31:06	easonhan	jarib:I have a scenario just like this: I need to set cookies to a cretain domain, so that I can get the login status. So I need to set domain when using the browser.cookies.add() method. I modify the source code and add a key named domain , it works well.
2012-04-18 21:33:37	easonhan	I think maybe this functionality will be added in the next version ?
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2012-04-19 10:48:02	rcrossan	seeking direction or site that could provide me examples or documentation on basic reporting for my scripts. The most important item I need in my script is to log how long the script took and then pass/fail for items of course.
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2012-04-19 10:54:47	dougnoel	I honestly got that by using Cucumber to wrap around my Watir-webdriver tests.
2012-04-19 10:55:43	dougnoel	RSpec also might give you what you need as far as reporting tho  depending on what you need your reports to look like.
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2012-04-19 11:54:47	rcrossan	thank you dougnoel. I will look into both of those. I have heard many good things about cucumber, but just have not dived into it yet.
2012-04-19 11:56:19	dougnoel	rcrossan: I highly suggest the Cucumber Book from Pragmatic Bookshelf.  It'll have you up and running in the first chapter, and better yet explains WHY you should use the approach, and HOW to implement it.  They also have an Rspec book that looked good when I perused it at the bookstore.
2012-04-19 11:56:41	dougnoel	And by how to implement it, I mean from a business process persepctive - not just a technical perspective.
2012-04-19 11:58:27	rcrossan	I think I just might go get it today then! Awesome!
2012-04-19 11:59:17	dougnoel	It's totally worth the money, esp if you get it on Amazon. ;)
2012-04-19 12:29:38	rcrossan	I wish it had an e-book version =) I'm too impatient
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2012-04-19 13:34:55	dougnoel	rccrossan: They have a PDF version
2012-04-19 13:35:48	dougnoel	http://pragprog.com/book/hwcuc/the-cucumber-book
2012-04-19 13:35:58	dougnoel	Oh and ebooks
2012-04-19 13:36:03	dougnoel	epub and mobi
2012-04-19 13:36:17	dougnoel	$20
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2012-04-20 10:29:12	hemanth	zeljko, okies, yet to try that out, so asked
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2012-04-23 13:43:25	git	[watir-classic] jarmo pushed 4 new commits to master: http://git.io/aP1bnQ
2012-04-23 13:43:25	git	[watir-classic/master] update changes - Jarmo Pertman
2012-04-23 13:43:25	git	[watir-classic/master] bump watirspec - Jarmo Pertman
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2012-04-23 13:49:03	git	[watir-classic] jarmo tagged v.3.0.0 at df79857: http://git.io/jCjrrA
2012-04-23 13:49:03	git	[watir-classic/v.3.0.0] merge 3.0.0 changes - Jarmo Pertman
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2012-04-23 13:49:16	git	[watir-classic/master] merge 3.0.0 changes - Jarmo Pertman
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2012-04-23 14:19:01	mellissa	quick question if anyone has a minute:
2012-04-23 14:19:01	mellissa	why isnt SciTe bundled with watir anymore?
2012-04-23 14:20:10	zeljko	it is not bundled with _ruby_
2012-04-23 14:20:23	zeljko	watir is just a ruby library (gem)
2012-04-23 14:22:32	mellissa	ah
2012-04-23 14:22:52	mellissa	I see. thank you zeljko
2012-04-23 14:25:23	mellissa	Im trying to test something out super quick, and I didnt have anything that was as good as running watir scripts on the fly
2012-04-23 14:26:15	mellissa	Im using a combination of notepad++ and the command prompt because Notepad++ doesnt seem to show debug output.
2012-04-23 14:27:18	mellissa	Is there anything similar to scite I can use? I downloaded and unzipped scite/scintilla, but after extracting the zip there wasnt an exe or msi or anything included
2012-04-23 14:27:32	mellissa	so it looked like you have to compile it yourself or something
2012-04-23 14:33:06	zeljko	try rubymine ide
2012-04-23 14:33:15	zeljko	it has 30 day free trial
2012-04-23 14:40:37	mellissa	good call. thank you
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2012-04-26 10:00:50	watirspec	[watirspec] jarib pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/oOIzkQ
2012-04-26 10:00:50	watirspec	[watirspec/master] Improve window switching spec. - Jari Bakken
2012-04-26 10:00:51	watirspec	[watirspec/master] Run server in a Thread on Windows + 1.9, to avoid losing custom routes. - Jari Bakken
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2012-04-26 10:45:55	watirwd	[watir-webdriver] jarib pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/HXKG0A
2012-04-26 10:45:55	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Add ability to explicitly disable native events on Windows. - Jari Bakken
2012-04-26 10:45:55	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Bump watirspec. - Jari Bakken
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2012-04-26 10:51:54	travis-ci	[travis-ci] watir/watir-webdriver#76 (master - 1143f8f : Jari Bakken): The build passed.
2012-04-26 10:51:54	travis-ci	[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/watir/watir-webdriver/compare/d7eafe8...1143f8f
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2012-04-26 12:26:47	zeljko	anybody knows how to get browser name? something like browser.browser_name
2012-04-26 12:27:10	zeljko	I want to get back :firefox, or :chrome (or whatever)
2012-04-26 12:27:54	zeljko	b.wd.browser
2012-04-26 12:27:56	zeljko	ok, found it
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2012-04-26 15:42:12	zeljko	jarib: safari does not have support for screen shots?
2012-04-26 16:14:16	zeljko	jarib said on twitter: "correct" :)
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2012-05-18 13:43:01	zeljko	I can not find how to get value o class attribute for element
2012-05-18 13:43:19	zeljko	#class of course returns Watir::TableDataCell
2012-05-18 13:43:33	zeljko	I know there is a way, just can not find it at the moment
2012-05-18 13:45:01	zeljko	found it
2012-05-18 13:45:04	zeljko	#attribute_value
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2012-05-18 15:35:33	jarib	zeljko: #class_name
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2012-05-18 16:07:07	zeljko	jarib: thanks, I was pretty sure we had #class_name once, but I could not find it in method list at http://rdoc.info/gems/watir-webdriver/
2012-05-18 16:07:24	zeljko	and I remembered #attribute_value
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2012-05-22 09:14:35	watirwd	[watir-webdriver] jarib pushed 13 new commits to master: http://git.io/Fn-beA
2012-05-22 09:14:35	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Initial commit implementing Alert API - Alex Rodionov
2012-05-22 09:14:35	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] deprecations - Alex Rodionov
2012-05-22 09:14:35	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Make #assert_exists private. Ref: https://github.com/watir/watir-webdriver/pull/142#r779433 - Alex Rodionov
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2012-05-22 09:50:47	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Fix documentation links. - Jari Bakken
2012-05-22 09:50:47	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Move API links, add watirwebdriver.com - Jari Bakken
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2012-05-23 16:35:02	zeljko	chrismcmahon: welcome :)
2012-05-23 16:35:13	chrismcmahon	hi zeljko
2012-05-23 16:35:56	chrismcmahon	I'm doing more experiments with my page-object prototype while most of my colleagues are going to Berlin :)
2012-05-23 16:36:28	zeljko	sounds like you got a better deal :)
2012-05-23 16:40:00	zeljko	I have been using page-object gem on two projects, and I like it so far
2012-05-23 16:40:15	zeljko	way better than my own page object implementation
2012-05-23 16:41:44	chrismcmahon	right now I'm looking at how to abstract a method associated with one page so that it can be used on the spec for a different page.  e.g. I have a spec for a login page, and a spec for another page that navigates to the login page, and I'd like that spec to use the login() method.
2012-05-23 16:43:14	zeljko	ok, so to generalize, you would like a method from one class to be used in another class?
2012-05-23 16:43:29	zeljko	you can do it two ways: inheritance and mixins
2012-05-23 16:43:40	zeljko	page-object gem does it with mixins
2012-05-23 16:44:07	zeljko	create a module that has the method, then include the module in all classes that you want to have access to the method
2012-05-23 16:44:14	zeljko	do you want example code?
2012-05-23 16:44:36	chrismcmahon	zeljko: thanks for the clue :) I found something Cheezy had said about that back around 2010
2012-05-23 16:45:09	zeljko	I have already forked your repo, I can show you how to implement mixin for login_with
2012-05-23 16:45:13	zeljko	just let me know
2012-05-23 16:45:44	chrismcmahon	zeljko: I'm fairly clear on the mechanics of that, but I'm not sure where the Modules would be stored in a proper page-object project.  /lib somewhere?
2012-05-23 16:46:36	chrismcmahon	zeljko: I updated my repo with a failing example, but don't knock yourself out.
2012-05-23 16:47:57	zeljko	let me see
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2012-05-23 16:50:11	zeljko	can you paste the link to the failing example?
2012-05-23 16:51:52	chrismcmahon	https://github.com/chrismcmahon/Page-Object-WMF-spike/blob/master/spec/upload_wizard/upload_wizard_spec.rb
2012-05-23 16:52:35	chrismcmahon	zeljko: right now it naively tries to call 'login_with' but it doesn't know about the LoginPage object
2012-05-23 16:53:05	chrismcmahon	the thing to do is to make 'login_with' a Module and then include it
2012-05-23 16:53:55	zeljko	did you see how I did it?
2012-05-23 16:53:56	zeljko	https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/Page-Object-WMF-spike/commit/2d5a3565a2874ad33dec3334a88ea487bcb3f589
2012-05-23 16:54:25	zeljko	wizard page does not have to know how to log in, login page has to know that, right?
2012-05-23 16:54:41	zeljko	you are redirected to login page, you are not logging in from wizard page, right?
2012-05-23 16:54:44	chrismcmahon	right
2012-05-23 16:55:44	zeljko	but your question is where do modules live?
2012-05-23 16:55:56	zeljko	I think that is a question for chzy
2012-05-23 16:56:08	zeljko	I just leave them in the same folder as pages, for now
2012-05-23 16:56:17	chrismcmahon	yep.  in the meantime, thanks for the fix!
2012-05-23 16:56:29	zeljko	no problem
2012-05-23 16:56:34	chrismcmahon	that's nifty, didn't think of that
2012-05-23 16:57:10	zeljko	well, since the modules have stuff that pages need, I keep them in the same folder
2012-05-23 16:57:26	zeljko	but a separate folder would probably be a better place
2012-05-23 17:01:59	zeljko	and also, stack overflow if _the best_ think for code related questions
2012-05-23 17:03:26	chrismcmahon	sweet, that not only worked, it didn't even reload LoginPage when I thought it would. thanks zeljko
2012-05-23 17:03:50	chrismcmahon	let me change the password back to fake values and I'll push the change
2012-05-23 17:05:25	zeljko	oh yes, if you use on_page instead of visit_page, then it does not reload page
2012-05-23 17:06:00	zeljko	and if you update to newer version of page-object gem, you will be able to use #on and #visit instead of #on_page and #visit_page
2012-05-23 17:07:53	chrismcmahon	nice.  just pushed.  my change has an assertion along the way to logging in
2012-05-23 17:08:14	 *	chrismcmahon is sure this'll be second nature soon enough :)
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2012-05-23 17:41:40	zeljko	good night
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2012-05-24 12:02:24	chrismcmahon_	here's an odd thing in page-object, seems like this should work.  I have a checkbox in a page <input id="mwe-upwiz-skip" type="checkbox" name="skip" value="1">  ...
2012-05-24 12:03:35	chrismcmahon_	in my PageObject I have this defined as checkbox(:skip, :id => 'mwe-upwiz-skip'), and in my spec I have @current_page.check_skip
2012-05-24 12:04:02	chrismcmahon_	running the test shows "undefined method `check_skip' for nil:NilClass"
2012-05-24 12:07:47	zeljko	sounds like @current_page is not defined
2012-05-24 12:07:53	zeljko	I never use @current_page
2012-05-24 12:08:01	zeljko	you should use something like this
2012-05-24 12:08:18	zeljko	PageName.check_skip
2012-05-24 12:08:26	zeljko	and if there are more actions on one page
2012-05-24 12:08:29	chrismcmahon_	cool, I was starting to wonder how to refactor that
2012-05-24 12:08:52	zeljko	actually, the above should be on(PageName).check_skip
2012-05-24 12:09:02	zeljko	or visit(PageName).check_skip
2012-05-24 12:09:08	chrismcmahon_	got it
2012-05-24 12:09:20	zeljko	and if there are more than one action on the same page then
2012-05-24 12:09:37	zeljko	on(PageName) do |page|
2012-05-24 12:09:42	zeljko	page.check_skip
2012-05-24 12:09:48	zeljko	page.something_else
2012-05-24 12:09:49	zeljko	end
2012-05-24 12:09:55	chrismcmahon_	right, I've seen that
2012-05-24 12:09:58	chrismcmahon_	thanks again
2012-05-24 12:10:08	zeljko	no problem
2012-05-24 12:10:37	zeljko	I get no notification when you post here, so ping me on twitter, that appears on my phone
2012-05-24 12:10:42	zeljko	and I will get here
2012-05-24 12:13:27	chrismcmahon_	progress!
2012-05-24 12:21:43	chrismcmahon_	I think something is wrong with how I'm defining this checkbox
2012-05-24 12:21:55	chrismcmahon_	Failure/Error: page.skip.should be_true
2012-05-24 12:21:55	chrismcmahon_	     NoMethodError:
2012-05-24 12:21:55	chrismcmahon_	       undefined method `skip' for #<UploadWizardPage:0x1024d66d0>
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2012-05-24 13:11:05	zeljko	chrismcmahon_: could you post links to both page object file and where it is used?
2012-05-24 13:11:54	chrismcmahon_	zeljko: I'm off on another project for a bit, I'll keep at this a little longer (thanks, though)
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2012-05-24 17:48:59	chrismcmahon	proper syntax for page-object "when_visible" method?  I'm not sure how this is intended to be used (but I could use it)
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2012-05-28 16:04:05	watirspec	[watirspec/master] Spec for dl.to_hash. Closes #27. - Jari Bakken
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2012-05-28 16:04:23	watirwd	[watir-webdriver/master] Implement Watir::Dlist#to_hash - Jari Bakken
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2012-05-31 12:33:46	Steve-W	Hi Guys
2012-05-31 12:34:12	Steve-W	Is this an appropriate place to ask for a bit of help?
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2012-06-06 14:01:31	Cope	jarib: right, so my use case atm is not JS. But soem of the watir stuff does look cool.
2012-06-06 14:01:56	Cope	The main concern is it's hard to know, with so many options, which of the 'webdriver' type projects are live / paused / active etc
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2012-06-08 11:44:41	zeljko	jarm0: are you here?
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2012-06-08 15:30:44	zeljko	anybody has experience with upgrading from autoit to rautomation?
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2012-06-12 10:21:45	fabrice31	hi here
2012-06-12 10:22:05	fabrice31	Is somebody already use watir (or watij) to test flash animation ? (with interactions)
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2012-06-13 15:28:01	p1	when i go to a page and call browser.html i don't receive any of the page's HTML that was generated by JS. is there a way to view the html exactly as it would show up in firebug?
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2012-06-14 12:22:20	buzzseven09	hello!
2012-06-14 12:22:27	buzzseven09	any watir superheroes here?
2012-06-14 13:12:53	zeljko	just one! :)
2012-06-14 13:21:07	buzzseven09	any ideas how to get safari setup with web driver on windows 7?
2012-06-14 13:21:16	buzzseven09	im kinda stuck
2012-06-14 13:21:52	buzzseven09	using watir-webdriver 1.8.24
2012-06-14 13:22:22	buzzseven09	and selenium-webdriver 1.8.24
2012-06-14 13:22:46	buzzseven09	oh wait thats wrong
2012-06-14 13:23:19	buzzseven09	watir-webdriver 0.6.1
2012-06-14 13:23:48	buzzseven09	selenium-webdriver 2.22.2
2012-06-14 13:25:47	buzzseven09	?
2012-06-14 13:43:55	zeljko	did you read the docs?
2012-06-14 13:44:16	zeljko	http://watirwebdriver.com/safari/
2012-06-14 13:46:32	buzzseven09	i don't need to go this route on mac
2012-06-14 13:46:47	buzzseven09	just selenium web driver works well for mac
2012-06-14 13:47:10	zeljko	I am not sure watir-webdriver can drive safari on windows
2012-06-14 13:47:16	zeljko	(now that I have read your questions)
2012-06-14 13:47:20	zeljko	*question
2012-06-14 13:47:50	buzzseven09	I see. Problem solved then!
2012-06-14 13:47:53	buzzseven09	thank you!
2012-06-14 13:49:59	buzzseven09	i'll just ignore testing on safari till they have support for windows I guess
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2012-06-14 17:34:28	buzzseven09_	another issue with safari!
2012-06-14 17:34:32	buzzseven09_	anybody home?
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2012-06-15 11:07:42	imperator	hello
2012-06-15 11:09:32	imperator	https://gist.github.com/2937310
2012-06-15 11:13:37	imperator	actually, simplfied it even more
2012-06-15 11:13:53	imperator	get that just calling .goto
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2012-06-19 16:57:13	rcrossan	was just looking through the topics on the watir google group, but didn't see the starting info I need. Looking where I can find some online documentation to explain how I can use Jenkins to run watir scripts? We have Jenkins already set up and being used in our environment for other testing. We have another group who use watir for their testing, do they need to re-write their scripts in...
2012-06-19 16:57:15	rcrossan	...Xunit? or can Jenkins read watir as it is natively written?
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2012-06-19 17:56:13	travis-ci	[travis-ci] watir/watir-webdriver#103 (master - 96e8a61 : Jari Bakken): The build passed.
2012-06-19 17:56:13	travis-ci	[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/watir/watir-webdriver/compare/a1043dd8c8af...96e8a61bc357
2012-06-19 17:56:13	travis-ci	[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/watir/watir-webdriver/builds/1660318
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