--- title: min_sizes.html
--- description: A collection of mac apps and their minimum window sizes, for people running tiled window managers.
## Minimum Window Sizes of Mac Apps

I use tiled window managers, and some layouts work better with smaller windows, but not all mac apps can do that so this is a collection of minimum window sizes of different apps to help me find which ones are better suited for my workflow.

I use the following thresholds:

* <= 250 = TINY
* > 250 and <= 400 = SMALL
* > 400 and <= 500 = MEDIUM
* > 500 <= 800 = LARGE
* > 800 = HUGE

### Browsers
* Arc: MEDIUM, 470px
* Firefox: SMALL, 250px
* Google Chrome: MEDIUM, 500px
* Lagrange: MEDIUM, 425px
* Qutebrowser: TINY, 135px
* Safari: LARGE, 575px

### Calendars and Contacts
* Calendar: LARGE, 639px
* Cardhop: SMALL, 350px
* Contacts: MEDIUM, 498px
* Fantastical: MEDIUM, 500px; Day view only, Week (510px), Month (516px), Quarter (524px), and Year (504px) are LARGE, though may vary by toolbar icons visible.

## II

### Developer Tools
* Console: LARGE, 600px
* Dash: LARGE, 800px
* Hex Fiend: TINY, 173px
* MultiPatch: MEDIUM, 452px
* RapidAPI: LARGE, 660px
* Script Debugger: MEDIUM, 500px
* SQLPro Studio: LARGE, 600px
* SF Symbols: MEDIUM, 467px
* Sloth: HUGE, 853px
* Thony: TINY, 73px
* WorldWideWeb: MEDIUM, 480px
* Zeal: LARGE, 558px

### Diagramming
* Map: TINY, 227px
* Monodraw: LARGE, 700px
* OmniGraffle: HUGE, 865px

### Document and Book Readers
* Adobe Digital Editions: LARGE, 700px
* Books: MEDIUM, 500px; Only when reading, the main window (1000px) is HUGE
* Calibre: TINY, 74px; Only when reading, the main window (570px) is LARGE
* Marked: SMALL, 400px
* Preview: LARGE, 708px

## III

### File Managers
* Finder: SMALL, 316px; Without sidebar, otherwise MEDIUM at 446px
* Transmission: SMALL, 350px
* Transmit: HUGE, 880px
* VeraCrypt: LARGE, 699px
* SoulSeekQt: LARGE, 778px

### Home and Automation
* Automator: MEDIUM, 500px
* Home: LARGE, 515px
* Shortcuts: LARGE, 750px

### IDEs
* Android Studio: SMALL, 340px; Welcome window (800px) is LARGE
* Max 8: TINY, 118px
* Xcode: HUGE, 960px

## IV

### Image/3D/Publishing
* Acorn: LARGE, 800px
* Affinity Designer 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
* Affinity Photo 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
* Affinity Publisher 2: MEDIUM, 500px; Preferences (800px) is LARGE and Account (1078px) is HUGE
* Blender: SMALL, 320px
* Dark Room: HUGE, 900px
* Glyphs Mini: MEDIUM, 450px
* Paintbrush: TINY, 200px; Though it has floating windows
* Photomator: HUGE, 980px
* Photos: LARGE, 750px
* Pixelmator Pro: LARGE, 800px
* Sketch: LARGE, 800px

### Instant Messaging / Chat / Social Media
* Adium: TINY, 73px friend list, 200px chat; Some themes scroll at 200px
* Discord: HUGE, 940px
* Facetime: LARGE, 672px
* Ivory: SMALL, 378px
* Keybase: LARGE, 740px
* Last.fm Scrobbler: LARGE, 540px
* Legacy Scrobbler: LARGE, 640px
* Messages: MEDIUM, 434px
* Signal: LARGE, 680px
* Slack: LARGE, 668px
* Telegram: MEDIUM, 380px
* Textual: MEDIUM, 342px
* We: TINY, 74px

## V

### Marketplaces
* App Store: HUGE, 1000px
* Setapp: HUGE, 1100px
* Steam: HUGE, 1008px

### Math
* Calculator: TINY, 232px; Programmer (398px) is SMALL, Scientific (574px) is LARGE
* PCalc: SMALL, 380px
* Numi: SMALL, 310px
* Soulver: LARGE, 730px

### Note-taking
* Bear: SMALL, 300px; With Notes (570px) and Tags (752px) it's LARGE
* Notes: MEDIUM, 500px
* Obsidian: TINY, 200px
* Stickies: TINY, 54px

### Office Software
* iA Presenter: LARGE, 700px
* Keynote: LARGE, 540px
* Mellel: MEDIUM, 456px
* Numbers: LARGE, 540px; The new window (760px) is also LARGE
* OmniPlan: LARGE, 740px
* Pages: LARGE, 640px

## VI

### Media Players
* IINA: SMALL, 286px
* Music: HUGE, 980px
* Odio: HUGE, 1000px
* Play: HUGE, 870px
* Podcasts: HUGE, 1000px
* QuickTime Player: SMALL, 326px
* Swinsian: HUGE, 870px
* XLD: LARGE, 640px

### Mail
* Mail: SMALL, 360px with sidebar disabled; With layout column it's 550px
* MailMate: SMALL, 380px; Only with sources disabled, otherwise MEDIUM 488px

### Music Making
* Ableton Live: LARGE, 800px
* Capo: LARGE, 777px
* GarageBand: SMALL, 400px
* Logic Pro: SMALL, 400px
* MuseScore: HUGE, 1050px
* Reason: HUGE, 972px; The Reason companion is 1200px

### News Readers / Bookmarks
* NetNewsWire: LARGE, 585px
* News: HUGE, 860px
* Pins: LARGE, 515px
* Reeder: SMALL, 320px
* Unison: LARGE, 800px

## VII

### Password Managers
* 1password: LARGE, 784px
* Bitwarden: LARGE, 680px
* KeePassX: LARGE, 558px
* Passwords: LARGE, 668px
* Secrets: LARGE, 603px

### Task Managers
* Do: TINY, 180px
* Reminders: SMALL, 350px
* Ritmo: TINY, 85px
* Things: SMALL, 400px

### Terminal Emulators
* iTerm 2: TINY, 70px; Size depends on font, I got down to 7 columns
* Kitty: TINY, 22px; Size depends on font, I got down to 2 columns
* Terminal: TINY, 190px; Size depends on font, I got down to 20 columns

### Text Editors
* Atom: TINY, 73px
* BBEdit: SMALL, 311px
* Byword: SMALL, 350px
* Inky: SMALL, 350px
* Nova: MEDIUM, 480px
* Scrivener: SMALL, 316px
* Sublime Text: TINY, 91px
* TextEdit: TINY, 159px; Can go smaller, but not for very long.
* Ulysses: LARGE, 555px
* Visual Studio Code: SMALL, 400px

## VIII

### Utilities
* Activity Monitor: LARGE, 740px
* CleanMyMacX: HUGE, 1120px
* Clock: LARGE, 600px
* CrystalFetch: LARGE, 800px
* DaisyDisk: LARGE, 800px
* DeepL: LARGE, 580px
* Delicious Library 3: LARGE, 800px
* Dictionary: SMALL, 400px
* Find My: HUGE, 980px
* Flighty: LARGE, 515px
* Font Book: SMALL, 350px
* Freeform: LARGE, 600px
* Gemini: HUGE, 1152px
* GPG Keychain: MEDIUM, 470px
* HP Smart: HUGE, 1024px
* Logitech G Hub: HUGE, 1024px
* Malwarebytes: HUGE, 888px
* Maps: LARGE, 660px
* ObinsKit: HUGE, 1200px
* Parcel: LARGE, 722px
* Photo Booth: LARGE, 600px
* Stapler: SMALL, 300px
* Stocks: HUGE, 860px
* Typeface: MEDIUM, 440px
* Voice Memos: LARGE, 752px
* Weather: HUGE 985px
* YubiKeyManager: TINY 74px. Technically! it doesn't show the content or scroll, more like MEDIUM 476px for the content view.

### Video Editing / Streaming
* DaVinci Resolve: HUGE, 1445px
* iMovie: HUGE, 1280px
* OBS: HUGE, 867px

### VPN
* NordVPN: HUGE, 902px